I wanted to install a form from a migrated DE652 database and the DE8 install utility didn’t recognise any of the forms in the migrated database. I decided that maybe I should backup and restore the migrated database but I could not find it under Application/utilities. Where has it gone and why can’t I install a form or dql from another DE8 database?

Hi.

It will install forms from a Migrated Database. They are no different than any other DE8 files.

I suspect that you try to install a form/dql from a 6.52 database. When you migrate the DE6.x app it will be re-created in a different catalogue.

Doing a Backup/Restore as you will not be able to restore a 6.x app in 8.x.

You can still do a backup/restore in 8.x but it has been removed from the file menu as it is not a proper backup/restore since it doesn't restore exactly what you took backup of as well as it doesn't include all the files in an app (images/docs etc).

Backup/restore is best performed with a proper backup solution.

If you want to use the built in backup/restore you simply need to create your own menu action or a button that do Application Backup and Application Restore.

Back to Install.

Install has been riddled with "faults" in DFW as it is not as straight forward as it seems. When selecting a document from another Application DFW will suggest a TDF and DBM with the same file name as the FRM. This is most likely not correct as the FRM never change name when you change it but the TDF and DBM ALWAYS! change name when you change them (add/delete/extend a column).

Another problem has been the simple fact that you can't install a table with data if the app is not stand alone (i.e. if it is networked). 

Install is a very useful feature and even more so in the future, where we will make it possible to build an app from elements so it needed fixing.

One of the latest fixes in 8.5 is the above.

You will now be able to browse to a catalogue, see all the documents in the app, select the document you want. Then it will read the system files of the remote app and find the CORRECT TDF and DBM files and suggest them. If you decide you want to install with data it will also import the data correctly.

The oldest version of 8.5 with this fix is 8.5.0.1918

You can download and test it here.

http://www.dataease.com/static/files/DataEaseBeta-8.5.0.1918.exe

After downloading the latest Beta version 1918, I still cannot install a form from a migrated DE652 database. I can import data from a “migrated” .dbm file but not install.

Regards

Henry Gondorf

Dear Mr. Gondorf.

We are sorry that you are still struggling.

It is very hard to judge what is going wrong, as you give us very little information other than it goes wrong…

1. What is the 6.52 migrated to? Is it migrated to 8 or 7?
2. Can you open the migrated application in DE8?
3. Why are you installing the documents into another application?