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L4D - How to print with color in LegEasy4DOS


We got a request today from a customer that was testing LegEasy4DOS. 

As he was very enthusiastic about what he could accomplish we decided to set aside some to help him...

Written by DataEase 25/01/20 at 18:21:12 LegEasy DOS

DE9 - How to use DE8 Custom Menus etc.

First thing first, you can keep your DE8 filemenus, toolbar and tab bar in DE9 (even catalog) if you want to.

You can do this either programatically via SetCurrent() ex. SetCurrent("File...

Written by DataEase 18/01/20 at 12:42:51 DataEase 9 Developer

DE9 - New version and new Sample 9.0.0.4391

Download Sample

In build#4391 we consider TabControl more or less finished and we have also implemented an Action to run Exe...

Written by DataEase 06/12/19 at 14:36:26 - 2 people have commented. The newsest comment is 29 days old. DataEase 9 Developer

DE9 - Welcome App Tile Explained


The new Welcome app is quite self-explanatory but anyhow some of your have requested some information on how it works.

Above you see an Application tile with explanation.

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Written by DataEase 06/12/19 at 10:52:34 - 2 people have commented. The newsest comment is 76 days old. DataEase 9 Developer

Why not make your own DE9? - An insight into ServiceWindows and more.

Earlier today we had a meeting with one of our partners about DE9 and the future. A lot of things came up and one thing they wanted to learn more about was ServiceWindows. They had got that it was a game...

Written by DataEase 29/11/19 at 20:03:04 - 2 people have commented. The newsest comment is 82 days old. DataEase 9 Developer

Beta 33% 09.11.19 - A Dataease version fully built in - Dataease

The time has come and today we let the cat out of the bag - for the first time we let anyone outside our closet partner network see and play with DE9.

We call it Beta 33% but don't make that put you off. It is a fully working replacement for DE8.5 which was the first milestone we wanted to reach before we let it out.

However it is much more than that which you will quickly find out. The reason we call in 33% is because it is at this stage only 33% of our ambition for DE9.

So within these 33% you find all the functionality from DE up to and including 8.5 final with over a 100% new functionality partly revealed today and to be revealed and evenly spaced out increments over the next 3 months.

100% DataEase

LegEasy4DOS Professional is a "pioneer" that showcase the future of DataEase.

No! The future is not retro, and the bit about it that is pioneering is not the fact that you can fun DataEase for DOS applications.

That feature is basically just how it should always have been and a catch-up with our history.

Take a closer look - The entire product is made IN DataEase following up on a "slogan" we had when we sat out to refurbish DataEase.

DataEase need to be made in DataEase!

LegEasy4DOS - How it works?

The interest in LegEasy4DOS has been "overwhelming" since we released it at the end of last week.

A lot of eagerly awaiting Professional clients jumped at it and the feedback was not late to come.

Most of you are overjoyed and excited by this opportunity to run DataEase for DOS in a modern environment, and more than happy to scrap your old XP computers and Novell servers that has kept you up at night with worry - when will it draw its last breath and what will I do then?

However not all feedback is good and some of you have been "disappointed" too.

Some of this disappointment is down to us having problem with our server park after the release due to an unexpected heavy load - don't they always say that - but some of you have been running bench mark tests and compared it to "Native" DfD on Native XP, WIndows 7 x32 etc. and the results has baffled you.

Why is it sometimes much slower and then sometimes much faster than the comparison?

In the article below we will try to explain this and how LegEasy4DOS is designed and how it works.

LegEasy4DOS Professional Release 05.08.16

The response to our Personal version of L4D has been fantastic and it has given us great motivation in the work leading up to the release of our long awaited Professional version of L4D.

We won't spend too much time extrapolating its virtues here but limit ourselves to announcing it's release and showcase its beauty ;-)

Further down the article you will find the FREE FOR ALL Trial Key you can use to get the first "spin" in this brand new interpretation of DataEase (for DOS).

New Support Manager and new Support Products introduced

For a long time we have been focusing on improving our software products, but we have now entered a new phase where we will focus more and more on the entire customer experience.

One issue that has been raised more often than others is the lack of a dedicated support service so this is one of the areas were we will now focus.

Last month we hired Fatma Adel as our new Support Manager. She has now had some time to settle in and are more than eager to start helping you resolve your issues.

LegEasy 4DOS - Update!

We are and should be very happy when an upcoming release of a DataEase product cause this much of a stir, but it is also a sobering moment.

We obviously still have some catching up to do with our new products before they reach the same popularity as the early versions of DataEase.

Luckily the "re-launch" of DataEase for DOS is part of our DataEase infrastructure strategy so you will now be able to run your legacy apps well into this century when at the same time integrate them with the latest DataEase technology.

Locking Strategies for dummies!

Ever wondered why you have so much trouble with inconsistency and being locked out of your DataEase database? If the answer is YES, read one and discover how you can easily remedy it.

Full, Basic, Opportunistic - What does this really mean? We get a lot of questions about which locking to choose in DataEase, and the answers we have give - are giving, have changed over the years. I guess that if this was a simple as it "should be", there wouldn't even be three options in DataEase, and we wouldn't leave this is in your hands.

I have spent quite a lot of times over the years debating and exploring this myself, and the problem is that it is more of a philosophical problem, than a technical one. Pictures this as going into a Chinese restaurant and ordering. You get a many with 500 items, and you are vaguely familiar with 3 of them, so what do you do. Choose what you know, or go for the set menu...

[{8}]five Release and Release program.

Finally...

DataEase {[8}]five went into production today and from now on it will be all about 8.5 and beyond.

We have now concluded the longest Beta program in DataEase history - 427 days or over 1 year and 2 months.

So why so little fanfare on this watershed day?

Warning! Price increase on DataEase 8 from January 1st

We are changing how we license DataEase from Januar 1st 2016.

In short we will stop dividing licenses (and executables) in Developer (Full) and GROUP (Runtime) and introduce a simple User License and one executable that will be either a development environment or a Application Launcher based on the users privileges.

The change might seem dramatic at first, but you will get much more functionality and flexibility.

This is just an early warning to those of you that plan to buy DataEase 8 in the near future, more information on the change in product and licensing strategy will follow.

Dynamic Design - A New paradigm in DataEase development

ExecDQLClass(), CreateTable(), AddColumn()* signify a complete breach with previous DataEase thinking.

From its infancy in the early 80ies and throughout its life until DE8 there was a clear divide in DataEase between Design and Runtime. (At least in the head of the designers, but the fact that most people used it interactively and added and changed to it in real time was not taken into account)

Tables, Scripts, Forms, Reports was froozen in runtime and there was few if any way you could make your application dynamic.

How this has changed in 8....

How to create CDFs for use in DE8/DG3

This is how you create your own CDFs using Visual Studio 2013. I selected to use this version because any one can get a full version for free as long as you register with MicroSoft. You should be able to recreate this in any version of Visual Studio in almost the same way as described here. Not much has changed in creating Windows DLLs in the last 20 years. You probably can do the same using other compilers as MinWin GCC and Embarcadero, but that is outside the scope of this document.

Migrating from DFW 5.x and 6.x to DE8.5 including National Versions

If you want to encompass DataEase problems in one word it must be Migration. It is fascinating that a company that has had so little success with this concept, has sworn to it for such a long time.

It is a badly hidden secret that DataEase lost most of it users in the flawed and bodged migration of DFD application to early DFW, what is maybe not so well know is all the other "unsuccessful" migration events.

In this article we will explain what/why and how it went wrong and what you can do to work around it.

We reached our 1.000.000 visitor today 23rd of February 2015

At the beginning of the year we had estimated that we would get our 1.000.000 visitor at the 6th June this year, but with the Beta of 8.5 and the great feedback we have seen both visits on our website and sales sky-rocket and we reached the 1.000.000 threshold more than a Quarter ahead of schedule!

We just have to thank you all for your patience with us, and for your contributions and support throughout the last couple of years since we took charge.

We both hope and feel that our efforts and enthusiasm for DataEase has been well received and are reciprocated by you all!

A wholehearted thank you to your all from "The DataEase Team".

NEW! Functions in DataEase 8.0 to 8.5 (Page 1)

Some of you might be aware of it but it seems a lot isn't so it might be time to advertise a little the vast number of new functions and functionalities that has been added to DataEase 8.0 through 8.5.

For a long time the only way new functions found their way to DataEase was through active and ingenious users which developed CDF's. As much as the CDF's alleviated the obvious short-comings in DataEase 5.x to 7.2 it was cumbersome, undocumented and "secretive" i.e. not everyone was in the know.

With 8.x we decided that the focus needed to be on moving DataEase forward, rather than the constant dance around the "bug fixing" fire.

Have a look and a try for yourself.

Due to the number of new functions we had to publish the short description in two articles, of which this is the last.

Also have a look on the blog synopsis found in the list to the right.

Start your own thread!

15/02/20 07:30:30

DFA &DFI X : DEX for Android and iOS app

Dear DataEase time, please do this simple job, an app of DFD with DQL for Android & iOS ...

Monstrous RDBMSes for programmers with WEB tools and alike are not for normal customers who are glad to meet DQL for DOS featured Android or iOS apps on their devices. 

Database app for personal and business usage

 Field Database Relational database on Apple, Android and Windows mobile devices for field work.

MobiDB and Field Data Base with ability to get and store and manage pictures and videos and sound are example of apps having no DQL for DOS alike tools.

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Product:

Written by: Ihor Zakharchenko

14/02/20 18:20:41

Re:The End of The Epoch of Programmersbe

ps windows 10X for Dataease X

  1. Microsoft sneaks working Surface Duo demo into failed event recording 21 The new demo gives us a first glimpse of Android apps on Surface Duo

Microsoft is now hoping that developers will optimize apps for dual-screen devices like the Surface Duo and Neo. The company has released emulators and a set of guidelines for both Android and Windows 10X, to let developers get early access to code and start optimizing their own apps. You can see our first look at the new Windows 10X operating system here.

  1. Microsoft sneaks working Surface Duo demo into failed event recording 21 The new demo gives us a first glimpse of Android apps on Surface Duo

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Product: Not product specific.

Written by: Ihor Zakharchenko

14/02/20 10:48:48

The End of The Epoch of Programmersbe

After the MS Surface Duo presentation epic fail on Tuesday, February, 11th, 2020 and the crash of macOS myth in 2020 State of Malware Report February 2020 by Malwarebytes ("For the first time ever, Macs outpaced Windows PCs in number of threats detected per endpoint") it is clear

DFD DQL submarine is here from the bottom

maybe DE X will be  simple graphical environment replica of DFD without any modern programmers shit seen in Windows versions of DataEase.

DQL for DFD forever! 

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Product: Not product specific.

Written by: Ihor Zakharchenko

12/02/20 14:28:25

Re:Help Manuals?

Documentation.

All documentation for DataEase 8 is online via the website.

  • The Help section is the official help published by us.
  • The Blog contain our “blurb” on new functions, old functions, samples and showcasing of ideas and methods.
  • The Forum is a user forum where all users can contribute and help each other. We frequently contribute if we find that a particular request is of general interest, but it is not a product support.


You will find documentation of all functions here, but we include some tasters below:

http://www.dataease.com/DG3_BlogSearch/?MainProductNr=00003
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New Sample - How to use Timer(Event) to schedule exiting DataEaseDataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 07/03/19 - 12:11:48 - 1 people have commented. The newsest comment is 342 days old.
How indexing can kill your app or make it snappy.Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 04/02/19 - 12:29:38
Troubleshooting Network Slowness - SMB and Oplocks againDataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 06/11/18 - 15:27:49
DataEase 8.5 sum-up !Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 17/09/18 - 15:08:41
DataEase 8.5 - How to create a subform that change style on scroll/value in row.Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 29/05/18 - 12:43:25
UPDATE to 8.5 - Rebuild of last 8.5 (2674) to fix problems with scaling in older versions of Windows (7,8,2008 etc)Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 11/01/18 - 13:36:07 - 2 people have commented. The newsest comment is 740 days old.
New Sample 8.5 - How to make your own Tabbed Subforms that work...Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 08/01/18 - 15:44:58
New Sample - How to make an Image Preview on MouseOver (Ver. 8.5.1.2674)Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 27/11/17 - 13:15:34
Command line options DataEase for Windows 8.5 and 8.6Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 30/07/17 - 15:28:27
WARNING! Keep up to date with versions!Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 18/07/17 - 19:22:16
ChinEase - How to get your DataEase to "speak" Chinese or any other language.... (CharacterSet/CodePage)Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 13/07/17 - 11:44:29
New Sample - How to do multiple automated exports with ExecDQL()Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 02/07/17 - 16:54:26
New Sample - How to create your own type ahead search in DE85Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 22/06/17 - 16:13:16
Tired of the Delete Dialogue? New RecordDelete() with Option solve that!!Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 24/04/17 - 10:41:00
New Sample - How to use jsBridge in WebField to interact with formDataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 14/04/17 - 16:45:
License terms and enforcement from April 5th 2017Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 05/04/17 - 11:49:28
New Sample: How to automatically open different external documents from DE 8.5 (Showcase)Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 21/03/17 - 20:14:46
New Sample : ExecDQL, LabelExecDQL, MemoExecDQL Showcased and explained!!!Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 17/03/17 - 17:09:04 - 2 people have commented. The newsest comment is 1,060 days old.
FINAL 8.5 with highlights like Actions Info/Alphabetical RE-Layout and improved Migration (Ver 8.5.1.2674)Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 04/03/17 - 19:45:21 - 1 people have commented. The newsest comment is 1,069 days old.
DataEase 8.5 BETA - .header .items .end DFD style HTML body on MemoExecDQL (Ver. 8.5.0.1815)Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 05/06/15 - 18:55:35 - 4 people have commented. The newsest comment is 1,205 days old.
DataEase and Windows 2012R2 Server (SMB1, SMB2 & SMB3)Dataease [{8}]FIVE
Written by: DataEase on 20/10/16 - 09:33:58

NEW! Functions in DataEase 8.0 to 8.5 (Page 1)

Some of you might be aware of it but it seems a lot isn't so it might be time to advertise a little the vast number of new functions and functionalities that has been added to DataEase 8.0 through 8.5.

For a long time the only way new functions found their way to DataEase was through active and ingenious users which developed CDF's. As much as the CDF's alleviated the obvious short-comings in DataEase 5.x to 7.2 it was cumbersome, undocumented and "secretive" i.e. not everyone was in the know.

With 8.x we decided that the focus needed to be on moving DataEase forward, rather than the constant dance around the "bug fixing" fire.

Have a look and a try for yourself.

Due to the number of new functions we had to publish the short description in two articles, of which this is the last.

Also have a look on the blog synopsis found in the list to the right.

Published: 23 February 2015

NEW! ?Functions in DataEase 8.0 to 8.5 (Page 2)

Some of you might be aware of it but it seems a lot isn't so it might be time to advertise a little the vast number of new functions and functionalities that has been added to DataEase 8.0 through 8.5.

For a long time the only way new functions found their way to DataEase was through active and ingenious users which developed CDF's. As much as the CDF's alleviated the obvious short-comings in DataEase 5.x to 7.2 it was cumbersome, undocumented and "secretive" i.e. not everyone was in the know.

With 8.x we decided that the focus needed to be on moving DataEase forward, rather than the constant dance around the "bug fixing" fire.

Have a look and a try for yourself.

Due to the number of new functions we had to publish the short description in two articles, of which this is the first.

Also have a look on the blog synopsis found in the list to the right.

Published: 23 February 2015

DataEase 8.5 - What is new! (Page 1) - Roughly 8.1

This is the first page of 3 where we recapitulate the Blog entries made by our development team through the development from pre 8.0 to 8.5.

We have edited and updated the entries, but the appear in the order they were made and with the ideas, experiences and functionality up to then.

They are listed from oldest to newest and will give you a deep insight into DE85, the thinking, the job and last but need the vast improvement of DataEase.

Published: 22 February 2015

DataEase 8.5 - What is new! (Page 2) - Roughly 8.2

This is the Second page of 3 where we recapitulate the Blog entries made by our development team through the development from pre 8.0 to 8.5.

We have edited and updated the entries, but the appear in the order they were made and with the ideas, experiences and functionality up to then.

They are listed from oldest to newest and will give you a deep insight into DE85, the thinking, the job and last but need the vast improvement of DataEase.

Published: 22 February 2015

DataEase 8.5 - What is new! (Page 3) - Roughly 8.5

This is the third page of 3 where we recapitulate the Blog entries made by our development team through the development from pre 8.0 to 8.5.

We have edited and updated the entries, but the appear in the order they were made and with the ideas, experiences and functionality up to then.

They are listed from oldest to newest and will give you a deep insight into DE85, the thinking, the job and last but need the vast improvement of DataEase.

Published: 22 February 2015

DataEase 8.5 - BETA 1 - Preview

When we do big structural changes to the product, we prefer to run it through a short Beta program before we release the improvements.

This is still an early Beta of 8.5 but as there is some really significant updates/changes we would like to get it out there as soon as possible to get feedback on the improvements.

Published: 31 January 2015

DataEase 8 is built on DataEase 7 so the fundamentals is very much the same even though the functionality and possibilities is vastly expanded.

We are currently working on the new “How to get Started with DataEase 8”, but if you want to browse the 7 documentation you will find the books as PDFs here.To DOWNLOAD a printable manual, click below:


Download DataEase for Windows 7.2 Help.pdf (5.83MB)

Download DQL Programmer’s Guide.pdf (6.37MB)

Download Designer’s Guide.pdf (11.4MB)

Download OML Programmer’s Guide.pdf (1.34MB)

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Product: Dataease [{8}]FIVE

Written by: DataEase

11/02/20 22:28:41

Help Manuals?

Are there help manuals for Data Ease 8.5?  User guide or designer guide?  I'm new to this and trying to teach myself.  

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Product: Dataease [{8}]FIVE

Written by: Colleen Sienkiewicz

11/02/20 05:57:06

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hi Daniel, thank You so much for Your reply.

Statistics tells about huge penetration of DFD in USA state organisations and enterprises in 1980s. 

The Matrix = The System decided to change the situation later and that was coincided with an accident with car and bicycle ...

We have 1c  here in Ukraine. The software is everywhere and it is more awful than war ...

1C:Hotel è una applicazione costruita sulla 1C:Enterprise che vi permette di gestire in modo ottimale la vostra struttura ricettiva.

My uni mate is not Algebraist and he is from the theory of probabilities and math statistics department ;) that is why He is programmer, as others related to calculus, differential equations and etc (different from Abstract Algebra)

HE LOST HIS HEALTH PROGRAMMING HIS OWN BUSINESS accounting software with Clipper, dBase and now with 1c (1c had .dbf structure from the beginning).

as to DQL for DOS it was made occasionally and the Matrix decided to be with MS paradigm. Programmers have to be everywhere near end users ;) Programmers are the product of marketing simply )))))))))))))))))))))

Wish you wonderful day friends! 

DE9 ship will rise from the deep bottom if the Matrix will permit that to be.

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: Ihor Zakharchenko

10/02/20 20:47:12

Re:Re:Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hi Ihor. I have dealt with alot of abstract algebra back in the days when I was an Engineering student and I certainly know about Alan Turing and the Enigma project. However, one have to bare in mind that the technology has developed rapidly since this. I want to keep up with the development and be a step ahead of the development and not behind it!

Wish you a good day

//Daniel 

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: Daniel Kron

10/02/20 19:37:24

Re:Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hi all!

Abstract Algebra keeps me healthy  when talking with programmers. The unbelievable success of DFD is in its fantastic DQL for DQL is not a copy of human way of thinking. all software including modern is a stupid version of the way peoples are thinking. but DQL is really other thing ... new to humans and out of ordinary 3 dimensional reality (time is a fiction). Nobody will double DQL even in DE9. so is the story. to understand this use meditation or dialectics. Good luck! 

A Turing machine is a mathematical model of computation that defines an abstract machine,[1] which manipulates symbols on a strip of tape according to a table of rules.[2] Despite the model's simplicity, given any computer algorithm, a Turing machine capable of simulating that algorithm's logic can be constructed.[3]

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: Ihor Zakharchenko

10/02/20 19:30:35

Re:Re:Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hi Ulrik. Thank you for answering my question, or at least what could be seen as the question. Anyway I have to say that you have good points and I like you and that you take the time to write me answers, that's good customer care. I hope that you are aware that I really wanted this to suit all my needs since I think the product have/had potential (the goal and/-or intention is very good), but as a customer I have no clue how long I have to wait until I can develop a DB that suits my requirements and to be honest the history of DE somewhat comes as a reminder when I now have to decide what to use, DE or SQL.

Regarding the website:

"Website - lets get that out of the way first.

We need a website to service existing customers but we won't wast time and money on fixing that before we have a product we will promote as a new offering. Everything we sell today is to help existing customers that has stayed loyal to us."

- Well I agree that it might not be super important to develop a better website before you actually have something to offer, but as the technology with social media etc. emerges rapidly nowadays I would suggest you to take a closer look on this matter anyway to at least get a new target group interested in what your future offer might be (That's just a strategic advice). I should be honest here, the only reason I actually got into DE was because of my father who is one of DE loyal customers from the beginning of DE. However, even he does not see reasons for me to use DE now since it looks like it is not comparable to the abilities of "normal" SQL. (He uses DE with remote desktop).


Regarding motivation:

"I normally don't want to complain, thats not my personallity, but in this case I feel that I have to because only that will make you seeing the sides where you need to put some effort to develop and maybe gain the customer and users trust."

When I started to work with Sapphire this was the standard way people tried to motivate "us" and to be honest it only demotivated the ones that tried to do their best and the rest didn't care. When I started to work with Dataease again the relationship inside Dataease as well as with the customers and partners was toxic.

- This should not be seen as motivation, rather a customer feedback and I hope it is taken seriously (I know that I don't represent all customers of course, but maybe a part of the "new users", That's up to you to decide)


We have taken this slow as we want to get it right but we have a plan and we will not deviate from it or stress about it.

 - Oh yes I am super aware of this and that's the main reason why I'm writing, unfortunately, and it somewhat scares me as I have no clue if and when a product will be finished!

You are the kind of person we develop this product for but you might just be here too early and there is very little we can do about that.

- I agree and even if I was here 30 years ago I guess the answer would have been the same, so as I was saying before, I have no clue when or if a product for my purpose will ever be finished.


We plan to have something we think is usable for new users before the end of this year.

- What do you mean by this? Will it be finished so I as a new user can start making DB's or should it be seen as a product I can distribute to my users?


Maybe you can answer the following questions:

1. Why can I not buy DE9 and what is the point of having a 2 weeks trial period of a product that can not be bought?

2. I want to create a DB which should be used by my customers/users. The user should access the DB via my homepage and/-or app in their smartphone. Is this possible with DE now? and if, how should I do? They should not be aware of that the DB is DataEase, just a user friendly interface (Front-end)

3. What will this cost me? Subscription per user or how does it work? Do I need my own server as well?

4. Will there be in-built features to create apps and QR scanners within the DE database in the future? If so, when can this be expected to be done?

5. Is it possible to migrate my database from DE6.53 into DE9? (Yepp I have created an MVP in that database which took me lots of time)


These are questions for you to answer in order to maybe convince me to stay with DataEase instead of SQL. 


I wish you a good day

Sincerely,

Daniel Kron






 

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: Daniel Kron

10/02/20 19:00:32

Re:Re:Re:Pleased advise which Dataease version I should use

U r welcome ...You've got the way not straight direction to find what You are searching for ;) 

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Product: DataEase for Windows 5.x and before...

Written by: Ihor Zakharchenko

10/02/20 17:57:43

Re:RecordSaveNew and erase field value in OML with just one button

Donwload Sample

We have updated Josefs sample a little to show you how you can do this in OML.

But for the love of GOD! This is absolute crap. If one are to work with Dataease one deserve better than this. 

It is a constant feeling that you are pushing a big rock up a hill. No wonder people were frustrated with Dataease.

Not to blow our own trumpet but DE85 is a completely different experience to work with and DE9 even though it is only 33% can do everything that DE6.5 can do many, many, many times better.

Just to be able to use RecordSave() in OML I had to Swtich on system forms, find DFW Acts, import DFW Acts and remember to import in the right table (I didn't) and then you have to copy the DLL to DataEase catalog (or application catalog).

Then you can start using it.

We might not be all there in DE9 but this is as far away from use friendly as one can get.

So if you are evaluating if you are to use Dataease or not, definitely don't do it in 6.5 as the answer should then definitely be NOT.

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Product: LegEasy 6 Windows

Written by: DataEase

10/02/20 17:50:30

Re:Re:Jump to a Record

Very good decicison  ;-)

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Product: Dataease [{8}]FIVE

Written by: Thomas Hergenröther

10/02/20 17:27:21

Re:Pleased advise which Dataease version I should use

Download the DE9 beta, you can use that for free until we release the product. 

At the moment it still lack some of the simplicity in production of Mail merge etc. but that will be rectified this spring. 

IN DE9 you can mail-merge stragiht to email as well as all other media.

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Product: DataEase for Windows 5.x and before...

Written by: DataEase

10/02/20 17:25:06

Re:Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Sorry, didn't really answer your question there:

We plan to have something we think is usable for new users before the end of this year.

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: DataEase

10/02/20 16:44:51

Re:Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hi again Daniel.

Nothing you say is exactly the same as we have been thinking.

YOU are exactly the right kind of customer for us. What you say about yourself fit our target profile 100%. 

Website - lets get that out of the way first.
We need a website to service existing customers but we won't wast time and money on fixing that before we have a product we will promote as a new offering. Everything we sell today is to help existing customers that has stayed loyal to us.

Further.
"Nowadays I see it more simple to pay someone with programming skills to do the work!"
"But why are SQL programmers that coveted? - Certainly because there is no other good options!"

These are the main reasons why me ad my team decided to "salvage" DataEase. 

You get us completely wrong. We are not the people that ran Dataease into the ground. We are not motivated on carrying on a 40 year old software company just for the sake of it.

We strongly believe that if you manage to make a modern product that people take to as quickly and easily as DFD the demand for SQL programmers will crash. 

I have worked extensively with SQL and it is an absolute dog and the worst part of it is that everything that made it a good idea is no longer true. It was made to be 1 keep transactions as small as possible to make it "fast" over bad lines and 2 to allow different systems to talk to each other.

1. There is no longer any need.
2. They don't talk to each other because each dialect has morphed so far that there are now new standards on top of SQL to allow different SQL dialects to talk.

The IT industry is extremely inefficient and expensive and ripe for the picking. 

We feel that we have a responsibility to all those that invested in developing in Dataease which is why we have made several LegEasy versions but we are very aware that if there is to be a future we will need to attract new users and young users. 

So the same way that salvaging the Wasa maybe only took 2 years, the restoration took 20 if we follow that analogy.

To make something complex appear simple is much harder than one think.

For us there is no point in rushing as we have already lost the majority of our user base and the ones we still have we have looked after well since we took over the running of this ship.

We need to get it right more than get it fast and the way we look on Dataease is not as a 40 year old company but a startup. 

When we feel we are ready we will move into marketing mode and to get there as fast as possible we keep as low a profile as possible.

"How long has DE9 been developed and how long before it is ready to be "compeeting" with normal programming that can do everything?)"


We can already do everything and in most cases more than what you call "normal programming" and we have been able to do that for over a decade at least, but we don't want to go down that direction. We are developing Dataease and not a normal programming tool that can do everything in theory but very little that a normal person can achieve.

"I normally don't want to complain, thats not my personallity, but in this case I feel that I have to because only that will make you seeing the sides where you need to put some effort to develop and maybe gain the customer and users trust."

When I started to work with Sapphire this was the standard way people tried to motivate "us" and to be honest it only demotivated the ones that tried to do their best and the rest didn't care. When I started to work with Dataease again the relationship inside Dataease as well as with the customers and partners was toxic.

We have changed that over the years and there is now very little hostility and most of our remaining customers love talking to us and trust that we actually act in their best interest and develop the product.

We have taken this slow as we want to get it right but we have a plan and we will not deviate from it or stress about it. 

If people don't trust us, think that we are outdated and useless and know a better way of getting their job done then we are happy for them to use something else.

But as I said in the beginning.

You are the kind of person we develop this product for but you might just be here too early and there is very little we can do about that.

No hard feeling our end and we thank you for your input and your effort to get us off our lazy backsides and if you go down a different route now you are always welcome back  to have another go.

All the best,

Ulrik Krohn.

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: DataEase

10/02/20 15:31:33

Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hello Ulrik. Thank you for the in-depth answer.

As an MSc Engineer in Product Development and interaction-design I'm not that into programming. However, I really regret that I did not learn how to program SQL and C#. DataEase seems like it has (had) good potential to make everyone a programmer without the need of formal education. Simplicity and flexibility might be your slogan, but I think it has to be revised since that does not apply to current versions. Nowadays I see it more simple to pay someone with programming skills to do the work! But the flexibility is of course only an advantage if you have programming skills and that is the main reason why I choose DE (because I don't have programming skills). At this point I only se DE good for one thing, which is building MVP's for further development in SQL. I guess you will still have your loyal DOS-users as customers a bit more, but getting new customers with a program that is based on DOS and a homepage from the same era will probably not gain more customers. Even you as a loyal DE-user, BSc and CEO is probably aware that the demand for SQL programmers these days is super high? But why are SQL programmers that coveted? - Certainly because there is no other good options!

I normally don't want to complain, thats not my personallity, but in this case I feel that I have to because only that will make you seeing the sides where you need to put some effort to develop and maybe gain the customer and users trust. I wish you all the best with what I would say a Sinking Ship (By the way Vasa/Wasa was salvaged within 2 years from the first time it was raised from the sea-bed, How long has DE9 been developed and how long before it is ready to be "compeeting" with normal programming that can do everything?)

Sincerely,

Daniel Kron

MSc and CEO  

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: Daniel Kron

10/02/20 10:56:12

Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hi Daniel and the rest of you.

Dataease is almost 40 years of IT history. There is not many software products around with that "pedigree" and it is a history of good and bad.

It is no secret that Dataease got it as wrong with our WIndows version as we got it right with our DOS version. The problem wasn't as much that we got it wrong but more that we were unable to admit it and change the direction.

I say we, because I talk on behalf of Dataease but personally I quit working for Dataease because I disagreed with the direction the product was headed and I didn't see any future in it. This was in 1994.

I went on setting up a string of companies and worked with everything from Lotus Notes, PowerBuilder, Sybase, Oracle etc. I've a BSc in Software Development and my thesis was "Font independent OCR" which we did in Microsoft Macro Assembler (Machine code) so I know my way around the inside of a computer.

Over the years I always looked back in on Dataease when they advertised a new version like DFW 6.0, 6.5, 7.0, WebEase and Web Publisher and every time I got the same despairing feeling as I sense you have. They did it once, why can't they get it right again?

In 2007 I was working on saving large "wrecked" IT Projects. It always surprised me how one could spend so much money on something that should be simple and that led me to think of all the complex projects that was implemented in DFD. Projects that had no right to be in a simple product like DFD, but worked better than any competitor, was more flexible - could be changed on a daily basis at almost no cost.

I wondered if they were still around. I found the website and sent an email to the owner and one thing led to the other and we secured the right to develop a Web product on top of Dataease.

And this horrible web-page as you so rightly put it was developed in DataEase for Web over 10 years ago and has been maintained like most Dataease apps - add hoc.

Yes, it is horrible but it is Dataease and we know it is crap and that we have ignored it but there is a good reason for that and that is that we focus our resources on developing the product.

Dataease has been in maintenance mode long before we took over and we freely admit that the day to day running of anything but the development department is a left hand job. The website and all the products available has as a primary goal to maintain existing customers not to recruit new ones.

Dataease is a building site and at the moment we focus on building the house before we paint it, do the garden and invite customers inside.

The main reason for releaseing DE9 Beta 33% is for existing customers to see and play with the new features and as we move forward they can test what we refer to on our website.

DE9 Beta 33% is to show how much of what we intend to put into this product which is currently available to the users. In truth there is much more available in there already than 33% but as you have pointed out we haven't documented or talked about it yet so in that aspects it could just as well not be there.


DE9 still have 100% of the functionality of all previous DataEase versions plus at least another 100% so it is already the biggest updated ever in Dataease History.

You might think that we are a sinking ship and you won't be alone in thinking that but that ideas or belief is in itself a sunken ship ;-)

Everyone that now work for Dataease left the sinking ship decades ago, and what we are doing is a salvage operation.

Salvaging a 40 year old software can be compared to salvaging The Wasa or Mary Rose, but our goal is not to make a museum piece but a fully working ship that not only can be used - it will be in this day and age what Dataease for DOS was back in 1980/90s.

We freely admit that it is a hard job - particularly to see the idea of Dataease or rather the success of Dataease - in a modern context.

Understanding is not something that can be rushed and we have got it wrong more times than not but we gradually edge closer to the goal. 

It has taken much longer than we thought when we started, but then again if we had known how hard it was/is we most likely wouldn't have taken it on.

But now to your list:
1. Create a database Front-end that can be used on my web page with login accounts (cloud-based or whatever, but not remote-desktop)

This crap website is all that so you could have been doing that for over 10 years. The only problem has been that we were never interested in releasing another "developers" product. Dataease is about enabling non-programmers to build systems for their business and that is the hard job we are focusing on now. How to enable the functionality we have so everyone can use it like you could in DFD.

2. Design an app for the database

Same as for one.

3. Integrate a QR-code scanner to access the database

This is just a simple Javascript integration and has already been done many times for many clients, we even have QR integration for LegEasyWeb apps on top of DFD 5.x


There is in this day and age almost no companies that try to do what we try to do and the reason for that is very obvious if you sit on this side of the table. It is almost and impossible task. Every bit of code and feature we publish need to be supported, documented and maintained which is why we have only used DataEase for Web directly with customers or via select partners. 

Our goal however is the original idea of Dataease which is enabling the business owner or the entrepreneur to develop a flexible and state of the art solution for their business or idea on their own.

So you have to answer your own questions:

1. Is there anything better out there that will take you quicker and better to your goal and if so you should choose that.
2. If Dataease is the way you want to go, can you wait till our functionality is ready for the general public?
3. If not, do you have a budget to hire one of our partners to help you achieve your goal?

We can't tell or advice you what to do but we can tell you an advice on what we do and where we are headed.

1. Finish DE9 Developer to a standard that we feel it have the potential to recruit NEW users to Dataease (no version has done this since 4.53)
2. Publish our new interacive website that will enable users to get a full benefit from all the features of the product.
3. Publish all our support tools for deploying, maintaining, customize/personalize your Dataease Application.
4. Set up a new support company to educate partners and develop solutions in Dataease together with partners/entrepreneurs.

Nobody is more aware of the shortcomings of our product, our website, our sales approach, or support and our documentation than us and both we and you suffer from that every day but Rome wasn't built in a day and we simply need to take the time it takes to get it right and only with a great product can we fix all of the above.

Lincoln, 10th February 2020


Ulrik Jacob Hoegh-Krohn
CEO

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: DataEase

09/02/20 21:17:55

Re:Re:Pleased advise which Dataease version I should use

Thankyou 

I downloaded a file dfd553.zip and its empty. I tried to extract it. It did not have anything to extract

Thanks for trying to help

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Product: DataEase for Windows 5.x and before...

Written by: Mike Barden

09/02/20 19:55:00

Re:Re:Re:RecordSaveNew and erase field value in OML with just one button

Daniel

Sample attached.  Not very elegant but it works.

Take a look and let me know if this helps.

regards

Josef

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Product:

Written by: Josef Vella

09/02/20 18:50:20

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is this version something to have at all?

Hi Daniel

Using HTML integration in DE9 you can do anything - that is like having unlimited custom defined functions.

Re website - its the design that probably needs some polishing, but back end functionality is all there.

What I think is the main issue, is that there is a lot of functionality which is there but not yet properly documented or communicated.

I am very confident that in the coming weeks as the 33% increases, we shall have the best DE ever.

Kind regards

Josef

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Product: DataEase 9 Developer

Written by: Josef Vella

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